We all know that IVF treatment costs a lot. Information collated by Gaia Family Planning who interviewed 250 people last year showed that the average spend on IVF for heterosexual couples in the UK is £13,730. This jumps to £17,290 for those that experience an unsuccessful outcome on their journey.
70% of people experience financial trauma and 78% of people enter into debt to fund their IVF treatment.
So I set about on the tedious task of collating our statistics. I was interested to see how our patient spend stacks up to the cost of IVF compared with pregnancy outcomes. The full report can be seen here: https://www.verityallenacupuncture.com/birth-rates--statistics.html
Our results, based on women receiving 14 treatments and men just 4 treatments, not undergoing IVF, showed a 72% pregnancy success rate for women aged 35 - 42. This is an average spend of £970. The success rate of IVF alone for women in same age category is 21%. Our success rates jump higher to 89% if you combine acupuncture with IVF.
Therefore, in short, you can spend just shy of £1000 on acupuncture and you have a 72% chance of pregnancy. Spend £15,000 on IVF and you have a 21% chance of pregnancy. And spend £16,000 on IVF and acupuncture combined and you have a 89% chance of pregnancy.
We’re obviously enormously proud of what we do, but our statistics speak volumes. There are no studies of any real note that show acupuncture to be effective in fertility. There are studies showing the efficacy of acupuncture used alongside IVF. The results of which showed there to be a substantial benefit on pregnancy and live birth outcomes, yet acupuncture is not accepted by UK fertility clinics to be of any benefit to the patient. When has your consultant ever suggested you try acupuncture?
Why? I wonder? Well perhaps the data just isn’t there to support its use. Who would fund such research? And perhaps there are other reasons…
In our clinics we are unique in that we see a great many more patients than a sole practitioner might, thereby giving us a vantage point to be able to generate data in larger figures than other smaller operations. I wanted to share this with the fertility community and so, last month, I decided to write a lot of letters to IVF clinics across the country. There were three reasons for doing this. Firstly, I wanted to share our great work. Secondly, I wanted to test a hypothesis of mine. And thirdly, I had a bunch of stamps I needed to use up.
In the letter I talked about our statistics. I put it in terms I felt they might like to hear; that using acupuncturists to support their treatments could see their clinics overall statistics improving. I talked about the fact that clinics in America, Australia and Europe have in-house acupuncturists for the purpose of improving outcomes for their patients.
Enclosed in the letter was a print out of the recent systematic review of research to date showing the benefits of acupuncture used alongside IVF. And, some might say rather cheekily, I included our QR code for our Charitable Trust, set up to help our patients access our services who are facing financial difficulty. After all, 78% of their patients enter into debt.
So, did I hear back from any of the many clinics I contacted? Did we receive a donation? Of course not! It’s sad really. Especially when you consider that the UK fertility industry is worth about £320 million annually.
Unfortunately the lack of interest has helped to cement my hypothesis. It’s a belief I’ve held for some years about the state of our UK clinics, which is why I advocate going abroad for treatment. That IVF clinics in the UK are there to sell IVF - not to make babies. So in light of the title of this article - who are the real winners? Well I guess that depends on your objectives.
Just to end on a less depressing note, I was delighted to see Serum IVF in Athens hold a party for their founder to celebrate all the new families she’s helped to create over the years. It was open to all past patients and free to attend. Well done Serum... Highly regarded as one of the best clinics in the world, has some of the best birth statistics and still has its heart in the right place. A glowing example that you can have it all! Also one of the few clinics to have a female founder… I’m saying nothing! I’ve probably already said too much!!
I expect for most of you the answer is no. But we should have. And certainly for any woman over the age of 40 with unexplained infertility, recurrent miscarriage or having had several failed IVF attempts, you absolutely should have heard of it.
In this article we discuss the affects of chromosomal abnormalities on pregnancy outcomes and whether preimplantation genetic screening or karyotyping is worth it. Spoiler alert: The short answer is, yes!
So what’s a balanced translocation and where does it come from?
It’s a genetic condition whereby parts of a chromosome have broken off and attached to other chromosomes in another location. In other words, sections of two chromosomes have switched places. It can be entirely harmless or entirely serious depending on which chromosomes have attached where.
You might have a chromosomal abnormality affecting the egg or the sperm and it is thought that “50 -75% of spontaneous miscarriages result from numerical chromosomal abnormalities in the embryo or foetus.” (Fritz & Speroff)
Does age matter?
Yes. “Data derived from numerous studies reveal that older women and women with a history of recurrent pregnancy loss produce more aneuploid embryos than younger women”. (Fritz & Speroff)
Is it common?
Balanced translocations are relatively common, a 2-7% finding among infertile couples. It can affect the man or woman or both - making it a condition we really ought to know more about. (Ching, 2012)
How can we find out if we have it?
Preimplantation genetic screening (PGS) is a relatively new diagnostic and one in which most UK fertility clinics know little about, let alone offer it as a service.
It is used as an adjunct to IVF whereby the blastocysts are screened for chromosomal abnormalities before being transferred. Generally speaking, half of the blastocysts will be discarded leaving behind the sound ones for implantation.
If you are unable to garner any blastocysts for PGS you can have karyotyping which involves taking blood samples from both parents which are then examined for chromosome arrangement.
So why aren’t we told?
When it comes to fertility, most clinics still like to use the classic ‘get out of jail free’ card - The more attempts at IVF you have, the bigger the chance that one will stick. And it’s true. Even with balanced translocation there’s a chance that one or more blastocysts will still be viable for pregnancy. But the ‘get out of jail free’ card doesn’t take into account the financial and more importantly, emotional toll that multiple failed IVF attempts and/or pregnancy losses have on a person.
But in order to give a more well-rounded argument the official line is this: “IVF with pre-implantation genetic diagnosis for reasons of advanced maternal age or in couples with unexplained recurrent pregnancy loss can increase implantation rates and decrease miscarriage risk, but have not increased live birth rates. Consequently, the associated costs in couples without other specific indications for IVF cannot be justified.” (Fritz & Speroff)
Cost aside, wouldn’t knowing that there is a reason for your infertility justify the diagnostic? This is why I strive to explain “unexplained infertility”. It can all be explained with the right diagnostic. And with an explanation, patients are more informed to make decisions over their own fertile future. If the odds are stacked against them and all diagnostics are not pointing in their favour then it might be time to opt for an egg or sperm donor. However for most, the option of donated eggs is presented at a time when they’re at a loss to know what to do next. It then becomes an agonising decision to give up on their own biological children in the quest for a child altogether. It is my belief that, presented with all the facts, a couple can make an informed decision and probably bypass a lot of the emotional anguish.
So if you’re interested in any of the above, don’t talk to your fertility consultant. As with all my advice - whether it be sperm DNA fragmentation, a varicocele, an underactive thyroid, a balanced translocation. Their answer will invariably be to throw another IVF at it. So instead let’s get informed. Do your own research and don’t just rely on the ‘experts’.
Extracts taken from: Clinical Gynaecologic Endocrinology and Infertility (Eighth Edition) by Marc A. Fritz and Leon Speroff
Ching, 2012, Presentation and Treatment of Subfertile Men, National Institutes of Health,
Eat, drink and be merry!
Though for couples facing infertility the advice is don’t drink, keep the eating to a minimum and try your best to be merry. Or more accurately, for couples facing infertility the advice to women is don’t drink & go on a diet. The advice to men is to carry on as normal. Eat, drink and be merry, Lads!
Just yet another example of the patriarchy in our healthcare system. It spans all areas of medicine but none mores than in reproductive medicine.
There are plenty of research papers and sections in medical textbooks that talk of the damage caused to sperm through alcohol consumption. It’s written down but evidently the information has not been descended from teacher to doctor to patient.
Indeed a new piece of research showed that one alcoholic drink a day reduces fertility success in men by 9%. (Metro News, 2022) By comparison, alcohol intake has been shown to have no affect to female fertility and IVF outcome, though does increase the chance of miscarriage if alcohol is consumed in pregnancy. Yet women are told not to drink for months prior to IVF, whilst men are advised that they need not change their lifestyle, even if there is known male factor infertility.
And don’t even get me started on obesity. An overweight woman will be denied NHS fertility treatment because her BMI doesn’t meet the necessary criteria, but an overweight man is always accepted. Even though we know that obesity is one of the main factors when it comes to male infertility. And again, no change in diet necessary.
The sad truth is that women can only incrementally improve their fertility with lifestyle advice, supplements, acupuncture, etc. Whilst men can radically improve theirs in just a few months.
In the United States, some of the world’s leading sperm banks have just a 1% acceptance rate. If he has smoked, drinks alcohol, is deficient in nutrients, is overweight, overheats the testes due to certain occupations, has ever had an STD, has too many couch potato habits (ahem World Cup), or has recently had a fever, he will not make the cut. And if he’s over 40 then it’s an instant no thank you; largely due to the amounts of DNA fragmentation that we know affects older sperm. (Swan, 2020)
So why are clinics here in the UK not gathering more information about the lifestyle habits of men? Even if a man has high levels of DNA fragmentation the conversation goes along the lines of, “We have ICSI for that!” What if you engaged in helping men improve their lifestyle so the woman doesn’t need to have IVF at all? So she doesn’t need to put unnecessary drugs in her body that we know predisposes her to invasive ovarian cancers.
“a few new relevant studies have provided additional findings with supporting evidence to suggest that infertility drugs may increase the risk of ovarian cancer slightly in subfertile women treated with infertility drugs when compared to the general population or to subfertile women not treated… However, few studies have been conducted, the number of cancers is very small, and information on the dose or type of fertility drugs used is insufficient.” (https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD008215.pub3/full) Of course there have been few studies conducted. Were there to be more resounding evidence I don’t think women would be so willing to take the drugs and the misogynistic medical world might need to have a rethink.
And if you think I’m being a little too bias in the other direction, ponder this… Male factor infertility is the only disease that is treated by giving the woman drugs (in the form of IVF).
There have been a few men I’ve met along the way who have been prepared to do whatever it takes. It’s a shame that I could count them on one hand. Personally I’m always thrilled to work with them as, with their help, we are often able to completely transform the sperm quality, resulting in some very happy families.
But I can’t blame men for their unwillingness to make changes. If I had a fertility consultant tell me it didn’t matter I don’t think I would bother either! But the resounding evidence shows that it does matter. Lifestyle changes can absolutely improve the sperm morphology, quantity, quality and DNA fragmentation. And not only that, but “men with high quality semen have a longer life expectancy and a decreased incidence of a wide range of diseases compared to their peers with infertility, according to a study of forty thousand Danish men who were followed for up to forty years.” (Swan, 2020)
So to honour the title of this article, if you want super sperm without two heads and five tails, if you want to shape up your sperm, then shake up your lifestyle. Your future you, your partner and your future children will thank you.
Ashley, 24 Oct 2022, Metro News Group (https://metro.co.uk/2022/10/24/one-alcoholic-drink-a-day-reduces-fertility-success-in-men-by-9-17622390/)
Swan, 2020, Countdown: How Our Modern World Is Threatening Sperm Counts, Altering Male and Female Reproductive Development, and Imperilling the Future of the Human Race
Cochrane Library - Risk of ovarian cancer in women treated with ovarian stimulating drugs for infertility (https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD008215.pub3/full)
Some fab information here about male infertility from Dr. Paul Turek, a leading innovator in male reproductive health.
With declining sperm counts, diminished ovarian reserves, increasing rates of miscarriage, and with the prediction from fertility scientists that all couples will need IVF by the year 2050, protecting our children’s fertility is of paramount importance. Not only so as to shield them from the agony of infertility but also for wider socio-economic reasons. Who will look after the elderly population?
“Some scientists are now suggesting that the detrimental effects on human reproduction, and the underlying factors contributing to them, could threaten the survival of the human race… an argument could be made that Homo sapiens already fit the standard for an endangered species, based on the US Fish and Wildlife Service’s (FWS) requirements. Of five possible criteria for what makes a species endangered, only one needs to be met; the current state of affairs for humans meets at least three.” (Swan, 2020)
So where does it all begin? The egg of course! But I suppose we’d better not forget the sperm too. Both of which are dictated by the quality of your mother’s and father’s egg and sperm quality, which was dictated by theirs and so on and so forth.
Next there’s what happens in utero. If babies are subjected to phthalates (plastics) and other chemicals it increases infertility in both girl and boy babies. (Please see my article entitled “Can you predict your fertility?” if you’re interested in this subject.)
Then there’s what happens at 38 weeks of pregnancy where a huge transfer of antibodies takes place from mother to baby via the placenta. (Cederqvist et al, 1978) Interestingly this is something that happens specifically to humans.
Then there’s the birth. C-section or vaginal delivery? "Caesarean section use is growing at an “alarming” rate, accounting for 21% of births globally in 2015—up from 12% in 2000—experts have warned.” (Wise, BMJ, 2018) In the UK, one in four babies will be born via c-section according to NHS England.
To be born is also to enter the world of microbes. “At the very time when the baby is getting out of the mother’s body, its digestive tract and all its mucous membranes are germ-free. Some hours later, there will be billions of germs in its nose, in its mouth and in its gut. The main question is which germs will be the first to colonise the baby’s body?” Will it be those of the mother, or will it be those of the staff in the operating theatre? Will they be friendly and familiar to the baby, or will they be foreign? From a bacteriological point of view there is an inherent and fundamental difference between a vaginal birth and a caesarian birth and the growing number of c-sections has been offered as an explanation for the increasing problem of allergies and food intolerances. (Odent, The Caesarian, 2004) “Children born by cesarean section have been shown to be at higher risk for some immune related disorders.” (Schulfer & Blaser, Risks of Antibiotic Exposures Early in Life on the Developing Microbiome, 2015)
Then there’s colostrum and breast milk. We of course need not explain how important colostrum and breast milk are at helping to populate the baby’s gut with maternal antibodies known as IgG. And you might feel that provided a baby get to the breast quickly, despite of how they arrived into the world, that they will have adequate IgG. However, the same hormone that is produced in natural labour - oxytocin, which comes in waves during contractions - is also necessary for the contraction of the breast during the milk ejection reflex, when the baby is sucking. Oxytocin must be released through frequent pulsations in order to be effective. A Swedish study “found that two days after birth, when the baby is at the breast, women who gave birth vaginally released oxytocin in a very pulsatile - and therefore effective - way, compared with women who gave birth by emergency caesarian section.” (Odent, 2004)
Then there’s vaccinations. Some have postulated that the mumps vaccine may be responsible for failing sperm counts. People were vaccinated on mass for mumps virus from the 1970s and so this would correlate with the decline in sperm counts. Of course, this hasn’t been widely researched. No scientist is likely to go near such a controversial hot potato! Not to mention who would fund the research?!
So, taking all these factors into account, it is the immune system that is directly affected. The immune system is in place to protect us from bacterias, viruses, fungus spores and cancer cells but it can make mistakes. It can turn the gun on itself and destroy the very cells it should be protecting. This is what is meant by ‘auto immune disease’. It can also overreact to foreign pathogens who are not really dangerous. This is what is meant by ‘allergy’.
“Immunologists have to be convinced of the truth that life is a struggle and that struggling is a need, The immune system learns how to fight by fighting. But if the immune system does not get the chance to fight off certain viruses which usually attack in childhood, then it is a much more difficult and exhausting battle as an adult.” (Odent, Primal Health, 2002) The rush to give a child Calpol to help them sleep at the first sign of a sniffle equates to not giving the immune system a chance to learn how to fight. This is why doctors are nowadays so reluctant to give children antibiotics. We also know that antibiotic exposure within the first 6 months of life significantly increases the child’s body mass for the first 7 years of life. (Tresande, et al, Infant antibiotic exposures and early-life body mass, 2013) With some researchers suggesting that a child’s DNA is significantly changed if given antibiotics in the first year of life.
The immune system needs to be subjected to the viruses, bacteria and fungi in the early years, so living in a sanitary environment is not conducive to a healthy immune system in adulthood. And there have been many studies showing that children living with dogs or cats have healthier immune systems, simply because of the outdoor bacteria their pet is bringing in.
So why are our immune systems so important in fertility? Let’s list some auto-immune conditions:
PCOS, endometriosis, premature ovarian failure, ovarian cancer, breast cancer, cervical cancer, testicular cancer, diabetes, hypothyroidism, lupus, raised natural killer (NK) cells.
So with all this mind I hear you saying, “what can be done?” Well of course some of this is out of your control. You can’t go back in time and knock that drink out of your dad’s hand before he conceived you, or press the stop button when your mum microwaved her TV dinner in plastic at 8 weeks of pregnancy. You can of course try to live healthy lives before you conceive your children. And mums can minimise the risk of exposure to EDCs in utero by eradicating the chemicals that she can from her life; buy organic beauty products and natural cleaning products, get an air purifier, and limit her exposure to plastics, pesticides and fungicides.
But what about all those emergency c-sections that are out of your control? Vaginal seeding anyone? Sounds delicious doesn’t it. But essentially this is a great workaround to exposing your baby to some of your gut flora. Essentially a swab is inserted in the vagina and then wiped over the baby’s nose and mouth after delivery. Put it on your birth plans people!
There are many ways we can nurture a strong immune system. Allow your children to bury their heads into as many farmyard animals as possible… that’s an easy one! But also let them get ill. Don’t medicate at the first sign of trouble but allow their immune systems to learn how to fight illness on their own. Let medication be a “fall-back” rather than a “go-to”.
And lastly, talk to them about infertility. Raise their awareness that fertility is in a dramatic state of decline. And practically, if you have daughters you might want to think about private medical insurance that covers them for gynaecological and fertility problems before they hit puberty so that they may have access to necessary diagnostics and surgery if they need it. Or if you have boys, talk to them about freezing their sperm to be used later in life. You might think this is bonkers but we know that the need for IVF is very much on the rise. You can radically improve the outcome of that IVF by using younger, more potent sperm. (A man is most fertile between the ages of 21 to 25). Wouldn’t it be wonderful if your sons knew they literally had it in the bank!
Swan, Countdown: How Our Modern World Is Threatening Sperm Counts, Altering Male and Female Reproductive Development, and Imperilling the Future of the Human Race, 2020
Cederqvist LL, Ewool LC, Litwin SD. The effect of foetal age, birth weight, and sex on cord blood immunoglobulin values. Am J Obstet Gynaecol 1978 Jul 1; 131(5): 520-5
Odent, The Caesarian, 2004
Schulfer & Blaser, Risks of Antibiotic Exposures Early in Life on the Developing Microbiome, 2015
Odent, Primal Health, 2002
Tresande et al, PubMed, Infant antibiotic exposures and early-life body mass, 2012 Aug 21,
Like most of you I’ve been trying to forget about Covid. But I came across some research in recent weeks that has really got me thinking about the pandemic and more to the point, the measures in place to control it.
This little piece of research has implications that are so far reaching that I felt compelled to share it with you all.
In a mouse study, mice were infected with SARS-CoV2 infection or COVID-19 and were given Oxytocin (love hormone). The mice not only recovered from the infection quickly but found that it offered them protection from the virus. “Oxytocin has now emerged as a strong candidate for treatment and prevention of the COVID-19 pandemic.”
Let's focus on the wonderfulness of this for a moment, before we jump to feelings of ‘why the hell were we all starved of seeing our loved ones for so long?’. Maybe love really does conquer all? In my musings I wonder “did Covid become so prevalent because there seems to be so little love in the world?” And then, because my brain is hard wired to jump to fertility it got me thinking about all those pregnant women who need to be induced because they don’t have enough oxytocin to get the show on the road, let alone to deliver the afterbirth. “1 in 3 women in the UK now need to be induced, an increase from 1 in 5 ten years ago.” And of those 2 of 3 women that go into labour naturally only a very small fraction will deliver the placenta without the need for an injection of Syntocinon - synthetic oxytocin. This is standard practice and unless it is specifically stated on your birthing plan that you do not wish for it you will have been given Syntocinon as a matter of course. So the amount of women who can legitimately say they gave birth “naturally” are very few indeed!
Not only is Oxytocin (OXT) a powerful hormone in pregnancy it has so many other health benefits. “OXT can block viral invasion, suppress cytokine storm, reverse lymphocytopenia, and prevent progression to ARDS and multiple organ failures. Importantly, besides prevention of metabolic disorders associated with atherosclerosis and diabetes mellitus, OXT can protect the heart and vasculature through suppressing hypertension and brain-heart syndrome, and promoting regeneration of injured cardiomyocytes. Unlike other therapeutic agents, exogenous OXT can be used safely without the side-effects seen in remdesivir and corticosteroid. Importantly, OXT can be mobilized endogenously to prevent pathogenesis of COVID-19.”
We knew that oxytocin was important in the fight against cold viruses back in 2014. A study group of 404 healthy adults were intentionally infected with flu virus and were asked how often they received hugs from a trusted person during their illness. "Among infected participants, greater perceived social support and more frequent hugs both resulted in less severe illness symptoms”.
So there you have it… All you need is love. And to never be locked down and socially distanced again!
Wang & Wang, Cardiovascular protective properties of oxytocin against COVID-19, April 1 2021, (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7837104/ )
Rise in women having induced labours, NHS figures show, BBC News, 2018 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45978623)
Hugs Help Protect Against Stress and Infection, Say Carnegie Mellon Researchers, December 2014 (https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2014/december/december17_hugsprotect.html)
A very interesting discussion surrounding the research to date. Worth a watch!
I wonder how many of us have done some DIY palmistry to predict how many children we’ll have? Apparently it’s the amount of vertical lines under your little finger. I wonder how many of you are checking that now?
But what if I told you there’s another way to predict your fertility that is fully endorsed by modern science. Anogenital distance (AGD) is the measurement between the anus and base of penis in a man, or anus and clitoris in a woman and can accurately predict the quality of the semen in men, and in women can show testosterone based hormonal disorders such as PCOS. Anyone ever checked that one before?! I won’t ask how many are checking it now!
It is such an accurate diagnostic for ascertaining future fertility in boys that some reproductive scientists are asking that it be a standard assessment by midwives.
The measurement is also a useful tool in adulthood. In men, the shorter the AGD the more likely a person will be to be childless, and/or have sperm insufficiency and pathology. In women, the longer the AGD the more likely they will be to have elevated testosterone diseases such as PCOS. Basically, the longer the AGD the more the testosterone. Great in men! Not so great in women.
So what determines the AGD? Blame your mothers. “If a woman is exposed to chemicals that block the action of androgens in the first trimester of pregnancy - during what’s called the reproductive programming window - it can affect the reproductive development of the male foetus in numerous ways. One is to shorten the AGD… which correlates with a lower sperm count and a smaller penis.” It can also increase the chance of undescended testicles. Another big problem affecting fertility in males. (Swan, 2020)
The same is true for baby girls. “Evidence suggests that some of the same chemicals that can affect male genital development in the womb can impact the timing of puberty in girls, leading most notably to earlier development of pubic hair, breasts, and the start of a girl’s period. In addition, in utero exposure to some of these same chemical culprits can have a negative impact on a female embryo’s ovarian function, leading to a hastened depletion of eggs when she’s a grown woman and an earlier age of menopause.” (Swan, 2020)
So which chemicals are causing all the damage? Chemicals known as EDCs (Endocrine Disrupting Chemicals) are the culprits and unfortunately they are virtually impossible to avoid. Pthalates (plastics) are the big ones. Closely followed by Bisphenol A - used to line food cans, piping, receipt paper and other everyday items. Flame retardants used to Scotch Guard carpets and in all sofas, mattresses, etc. Pesticides, including herbicides, insecticides and fungicides. And it doesn’t stop there. There are many other chemical compounds that affect the endocrine system and as new chemicals emerge, it will take years to understand their impact on our reproductive systems.
DEHP, part of the chemical compound for Bisphenol A, for example, was used in a therapeutic setting in the 1940s to treat menstruation and the menopause as it was considered to be five times more potent than oestrogen. Worse still, it was used to prevent miscarriage and wasn’t banned until 1971 when it was discovered it caused a rare cancer in the women’s daughters. (Swan, 2020)
Unfortunately the substitutes that have come in to replace their predecessors are often as harmful as the ones they’ve been sent in to replace. It just takes years of research to prove and all the while consumers believe it safe.
So what does this mean for our future generation’s fertility? Well it’s bleak. With the continued decline in sperm health and with no signs of the curve levelling off it is predicted that everyone will need to use IVF to conceive by 2050.
Swan, 2020, Countdown: How Our Modern World Is Threatening Sperm Counts, Altering Male and Female Reproductive Development, and Imperilling the Future of the Human Race
Eisenberg & Lipshultz, 2015, Anogenital distance as a measure of human male fertility, [Published online Dec 13 2014] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363236/
Listen to this fantastic podcast of two of my very lovely patients talking all things reciprocal IVF, egg donation and endometrial scratches. Spoiler alert - I get a mention! *blush*
Verity Allen - BSc, BA, MBAcC, Lic Ac